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Madonna has had a facelift, says her brother Christopher Ciccone.
Christopher, who has written a book entitled ‘Life With My Sister Madonna’
alleges the singer - who turns 50 in August - went under the knife in a bid
to maintain her youthful appearance.
When asked if he still recognized Madonna from the girl he grew up with,
Christopher replied: “Not after the facelift.”
He added to US TV show ‘Good Morning America’: “I do recognize her in some
ways, but I think ultimately she is a lonely person. It is truly lonely at
the top.”
Christopher recalled the moment his relationship with Madonna - who is
married to director Guy Ritchie - started to deteriorate, during the filming
of her 1991 documentary ‘Truth Or Dare’.
He said: “When she was rolling around on my mother’s grave in ‘Truth or
Dare’ that was a turning point for me. I kept it inside but I thought, ‘OK,
there are no boundaries here. My mother has now become a bit player in her
life story’, That hurt me, my relationship with her changed.”
Christopher says despite his revelations about the singer, he is hopeful
they will mend their relationship in the future, so he can get to know his
extended family.
He said: “I think she will speak to me again, I hope so, but I don’t want to
talk to her unless we are talking to each other as equals. And if that means
she stays together with her husband and we don’t have a relationship then as
long as she is happy that’s cool with me.
“What I’m suggesting is that Guy’s attitude towards me has to change, number
one, and her attitude towards me needs to change, number two. If those
things occur, I would like to get to know my niece and nephew better and I
would like to meet their adopted son David.
“I love my sister, more than love her. I love her, but it will take some
time for us to find our way back to a good place and I hope it does.”
Madonna has an 11-year-old daughter, Lourdes, from a previous relationship.
She and Guy have a seven-year-old son Rocco and an adopted son, David, two.
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So, she’s a good Catholic girl who would never have an affair.. but rolls around on her own Mother’s grave?
Is it me or is her brother just starving for his 15 minutes?
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rolling around on her mother’s plot is not the same as sleeping around on a spouse, nini.
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What I meant by the comparison was more of the religion, menoho. To say someone doesn’t have an affair because they are a good Catholic is silly when in the next breath he’s saying she was desecrating her mother’s final resting place. I’m pretty sure the Catholic church frowns upon both. He should have just said, “Hey, Madge wouldn’t do that because she respects marriage too much.” It just seems like he’s conflicting with his stories.
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Because you didn’t write the damn book. He did. So what if he used those words?
Most people who are religious don;t know every in and out of that religion. And its a choice of words. nitpicky.
Don’t read the book if you hate the brother that much.Does rolling around on the site constitute “desecrating”?
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menoho - Jul 16, 2008 09:54pm Don’t read the book if you hate the brother that much.Does rolling around on the site constitute “desecrating”?
Probably. At the BARE minimum it’s appallingly disrespectful. How’s this: Go to any cemetary in your area and ask the management if you can writhe around on the graves for a while and have someone film you doing it. See if they file it under “Sure, have fun” or “Absolutely not, I’m calling the cops and you should be locked up.”
And (the other poster, forgot her name, sorry) never said she hated the brother. She’s merely pointing out the very accurate and very obvious fact that he’s trying to play two games at once, and he needs to pick one - “good little Catholic girls” don’t roll around on anyone’s graves, much less their own mother’s grave, to make a buck. If he believes she’s not the sort to have an affair, then just call it like that - don’t bring Catholicism into it. Because now there’s a logical gap between what he says and what he describes, which undermines his authority as a reputable and consistent source and casts doubt on everything else he says… which translates into lost revenue.
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Speaking of ‘a choice of words’..
Even atheists refer to certain matters as ‘sacred’ to them..it has nothing to do with religion.
Touching these matters in a way they see as inappropriate, is in fact ‘desecrating’ them.
Didn’t Madonna convert from Catholicism to the ancient mysticism of (Judaic) Kabbalah
because she found that Christian religion too restrictive as it consisted of “just laws and prohibitions”?
And didn’t she in the course of years dabble further into Judaism, even changing her name into “Esther” in 2004?
Only to drop this name of the ‘Queen of the Jews’ again for returning to the Kabbalah?
Then she allegedly severed ties with the Kabbalah Centre, founded by businessman Rabbi Berg,
because she thought of it as “too commercial”..and accused them of “abusing her name to promote the belief”?
Yep, a “Good Catholic Girl” indeed.. 
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the “other poster” was You dumb ass.
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menoho - Jul 18, 2008 08:41am the “other poster” was You dumb ass.
Was that meant to be for me? If so, you’re quite mistaken - and not just in the area of to whom you’ve directed your remark. (It’s in a reply to an admin, but she never used the words “other poster” in her comment so I can only assume that you were referring to me but replied, for some reason, to her instead of to me or starting a new sub-thread.) My post to you was the first time I posted in this thread, and I barely have time for *one* “identity,” much less multiple. Furthermore, as will become fairly obvious if you read such posts as I *do* make, my “speech” style is quite different from that of others’ in this and other threads.
How about you just admit that you have difficulty with reading for comprehension and forming a logical conclusion, or even following a train of thought after it’s been carefully laid out for you, and prefer instead to resort to angry, juvenile, profanity-laced “insults” (I can only assume you intended your post(s) to be insulting; although they quite missed the mark in actual insulting content, the intent is fairly clear) in an attempt to cover your other, more glaring, inadequacies. We’ll all be on the same page then, and can provide you with the level of attention, pity, and embarrassment by proxy that is most appropriate for you.
Sound like a plan?
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menoho - Jul 18, 2008 08:41am the “other poster” was You dumb ass.
Ribblefizz, when I first read this comment, I too believed it was a reply to me,
leaving me wondering what it meant and in what way it could be related to what I said.
The only ones who have been posting in this thread are
Hollywoodrag, Nini, menoho, you and I..and only you mentioned “other posters”.
Hence, I believe it was meant for you..which would indeed indicate menoho believes
Nini and you are the same person. I know you as a ‘regular’ on the site and clearly spot
the difference in ‘style’ between Nini’s and your writing, choice of words - and opinion too.
I think this is obvious to all the regular members on HR.
Don’t let this stop you from commenting..your contributions are appreciated.
You’re clever, have a wicked sense of humour..simply continue with your
thoughtful or hilarious comments. The past few days you were on a roll and I hope you haven’t lost the spirit.
DNFTT.
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imani1968 - Jul 18, 2008 06:20pm
...which would indeed indicate menoho believes Nini and you are the same person.
One thing I’ve noticed is true in internet life - as it is in real life - is that when people accuse you of something, it is probably because it seems most natural to them. So, when your spouse or SigOth accuses you of cheating because you come home 45 minutes late, it’s quite likely to be because that’s what THEY’d have been up to if it were them. When someone on the internet accuses you of having multiple accounts/user names - especially on so flimsy a basis as has happened in this thread - it’s probably because they are aaaaallllllll too familiar with the concept and process of creating “sock puppets” to make it seem like there are people who agree with them.
My thoughts on that are, I know what I think and believe and feel; I don’t need anyone else to validate it for me. If I’m the only one who feels a certain way on a particular topic, oh well! (Now, sometimes I do engage in debate or discussion - as civilized as possible, for preference - and find myself reshaping my beliefs. Knowing how I think or feel on a topic doesn’t mean that I’m locked into that opinion for ever and ever amen.) Considering that, the notion of having an alter ego seems ... really stupid to me.
But, more to the point, I am a very impulsive poster - I post exactly what I’m thinking (long twisted sentences and all!), and I KNOW that if I were to try to have more than one ID I’d only wind up embarrassing myself by getting my identities mixed up. Or, more likely, referring to myself by name.
Getting back to the “guilty conscience” part of this, the thing I am most likely to accuse others of, because I am so very guilty of it myself, is sarcasm. Fair warning! (c:
imani1968 - Jul 18, 2008 06:20pm
Don’t let this stop you from commenting..your contributions are appreciated. You’re clever, have a wicked sense of humour..simply continue with your thoughtful or hilarious comments. The past few days you were on a roll and I hope you haven’t lost the spirit.
Thank you so much! I’m really flattered by this compliment. I don’t usually have much time to spend in the forum threads, but believe me, there’s not much that could throw me off my stride, so to speak. I know where the ignore button is and how to use it, if need be… *after* I’ve made whatever point I might feel like making… heh. (c;
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You are right, Ribblefizz. I did not look carefully at the name. My bad. :{
Imani. syf. If I wanted to say something I would. y not? I asked you about another poster for a reason.
If I wanted to know or thought it was the case with someone else, I would say so. It is very easy in my line of work to see what’s what.
there are not as many posters as there are names here. I know it for a fact.
But I did not ask anyone but you about it-and it is not important. What was a casual and funny question has gotten you all bent out of shape.
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