Beyonce was confronted Thursday night at the swanky restaurant Nobu in New York City by two members of People For the Ethical Treatment of Animals (PETA). The two had won an eBay auction, benefiting VH1's Save the Music Foundation, to dine with the star. Beyonce had no idea they were PETA members.
TMZ obtained video of the confrontation, shot by PETA, taped inside the restaurant. As they sat at the table, Beyonce, who has a fashion line with her mother that uses fur, had no idea what was coming. After placing their orders, the PETA members confronted the singer.
The PETA members then pulled out a portable DVD player and began playing a tape of Pamela Anderson's attack on the fur industry, which highlights graphic footage of the process of killing animals for their fur.
Beyonce seemed extremely uncomfortable in the video as she fiddled with her food, but didn't have one word of rebuttal for the PETA members. Her mom Tina then asked them to leave before they were escorted out of the eatery.

With all due respect…Beyonce is doing her thing…but Im soooo over her and her bootylicious-ness. Jay-Z and her are boring.
Posted by
myopinionisplatinum on 06/16 at 01:13 PM
Im so happy Peta confronted her. Anyone who still thinks fur is ok needs a good video of how ruthlessly animals are tortured so we can wear their skin. Its wrong and the bitch needs to get off her high pedastool and take note.
Posted by
MiaAndrea on 06/16 at 01:21 PM
Good! I’m glad PETA confronted her. Killing an innocent animal just for its fur is reprehensible. I hope this makes her think twice about what she wears. I’m sure it won’t, though - vanity always seems to overshadow decency and humanity.
Posted by
nataliey1025 on 06/16 at 01:31 PM
I liked the part when Beyonces mom said they had visited the factory where the minks came from and it was ethical, and the woman said “so how do they kill the minks?” and her mom said “How do they kill the minks? (sign of lying and/or discomfort, repeating questions) uh, we don’t know.” LMAO!
House of Dereon SUCKS anyway.
Posted by
Therealnunya on 06/16 at 01:32 PM
Gotta hand it to those PETA people. They are always pulling hilarious stunts like this. I’m glad they made her uncomfortable, even if for only a few minutes.
Posted by
clever girl on 06/16 at 01:37 PM
If it were any other animal cruelty org, I’d be laughing my ass off at B but PETA rubs my shit the wrong way. I don’t wear fur but I eat meat and have leather stuff. PETA even hates that animals are kept as pets.
Posted by
phantomgrl on 06/16 at 02:02 PM
I agree with you Phantomgirl. PETA is filled with a bunch of looneys. I don’t agree with the unethical treatment of animals and personally the feel of fur freaks me out. PETA for the most part takes their antics too far. With their extreme radical views and crazy-ass behavior I think they harm their cause more than help.
Posted by
luvbean_xo on 06/16 at 02:25 PM
Well, we all can agree, they sure now how to get attention for their cause - good or bad.
Posted by
clever girl on 06/16 at 02:35 PM
I don’t think that was at all necessary or appropriate. It’s not like Beyonce or her mother personally go out and kill the animals. Sure, they could stop selling clothes with fur, but it’s their decision. I definitely have to agree with luvbean_xo about PETA doing more harm than good to their cause.
Posted by
beautiful.disaster on 06/16 at 02:36 PM
Clever girl is absolutely right!
Posted by
nataliey1025 on 06/16 at 02:38 PM
I am SO SICK and tired of people pushing their OPINIONS onto other people who don’t agress with whatever the issue is. People against war, people against abortion (yeah, that one makes sense, killing people in clinics..what hypocrites), people against wearing fur, whatever the issue is…leave your fucking comments to yourself! If others want to wear a fucking whole dead lion around them, that is THEIR perogative!! Just because you don’t like something doesn’t mean everyone else has to agree with you! Do you see people that DO like to wear fur, going up to people who don’t and like rubbing it all over them and saying “WEAR THIS, WEAR THIS YOU IDIOT!!”....nooooooo!!! When is it ever going to stop??
Posted by
dragonfly21 on 06/16 at 02:51 PM
Maybe they are not the ones Killing the poor animals, but they are sure PROFITING from it and are PROMOTING it when they wear and sell their clothes which means they are all for it.
Posted by
marydoll512 on 06/16 at 02:55 PM
** agree
Posted by
dragonfly21 on 06/16 at 03:15 PM
But it’s just like I said and jessica#1fan affirmed, it’s their decision, regardless of how you or I feel about it.
Posted by
beautiful.disaster on 06/16 at 03:15 PM
marydoll512…yeah, but so what? If we didn’t kill animals, they’d probably outrule humans! They’re animals! I mean, not to sound so insensitive, but there are other things to be concerned about, like saving humans, before saving animals. Christ, there are homeless people dying in our own streets, are the PETA people taking time to care for them????
Posted by
dragonfly21 on 06/16 at 03:18 PM
thank u jessica#1fan. people starbing and dying but peta doesn’t give a rats ass about that. if i had been beyonce i would’ve threw some blows and then ordered a steak just to piss them off.
Posted by
junebug20 on 06/16 at 03:29 PM
LOL junebug20!! Thank goodness there is somebody out there who gets it!
Posted by
dragonfly21 on 06/16 at 03:34 PM
How can it be someone’s perogative to wear a dead lion, but not someone’s perogative to speak out against animal cruelty? We can’t tell people what to wear, but you can tell them what to say?
Posted by
petethekazoo on 06/16 at 03:38 PM
PETA doesn’t care about human beings! Sometimes it’s a necessary fact of life that animals must be killed for human consumption and other use. I think this, of course, should be done as humanly as possible. PETA is all for saving animals at the expense of humans. They don’t care how many humans are harmed to stop the making of leather products or stop the consumption of poultry. They are an extremist organization plain and simple!
Posted by
luvbean_xo on 06/16 at 03:39 PM
GO PETA! AWESOME! ANYONE WHO USES FUR IS AN ASSHOLE!
TOUGH SHIT IF IT IS EXTREMIST! THESE IDIOTS OUT THERE JUST DON’T GET IT!
deal with it!!!
Posted by
please adopt not shop for pets on 06/16 at 03:41 PM
omg i just read some of the comments against peta…....you guys say some truly ignorant things
Posted by
please adopt not shop for pets on 06/16 at 03:42 PM
This is my thought on fur. I personally wouldnt wear it, probably cuz I cant afford it. lol But whether you eat animals or wear fur the animal is dying. Slow or fast. they die. So unless the world is going to be vegetarians then whats the point of PETA?
Posted by
blanchardsgirl on 06/16 at 03:44 PM
yeh, i’d feel uncomfortable too if i was shown that video, which i have seen and revolts me half to death. of course i would expect to have stuff like that happen if i had a fashion line of clothes that not only are fugly in and of themselves but also use fur…which is an unnecessary, tacky, and uselessly cruel fashion accessary.
i think PETA gets too extreme sometimes, like throwing red paint on people in fur or throwing pies at people and generally acting like nuts in public, which hurts their cuase. but i’m in 100% agreement with their stance against fur in fashion.
and hey, if you are going to take their money from the auction you should’ve sat there and let them have their say. they paid for your time, give it to them. you gonna return the money they spent winning the auction?
Posted by
Gambitgirl on 06/16 at 03:46 PM
” Do you see people that DO like to wear fur, going up to people who don’t and like rubbing it all over them and saying “WEAR THIS, WEAR THIS YOU IDIOT!!”
omg, jessican! the mental image that line gave me cracked me up LMOA!
Posted by
Gambitgirl on 06/16 at 03:50 PM
The only person that is ignorant is you contessa. I personally don’t care for fur, and do not condone the ill treatment of animals. PETA is a joke! They are out to glorify themselves and not their cause!
Posted by
luvbean_xo on 06/16 at 03:52 PM
I doubt you can produce a single piece of PETA literature that states that they do not care about humans. You talk of extremes, but that is an extreme argument you are making. I support PETA, and I care about people. One doesn’t preclude the other.
Posted by
petethekazoo on 06/16 at 03:52 PM
“outrule humans” ??? Are you really that ignorant? So clubbing baby seals and smashing their brains in is ok? Or raising 50 minks in one cage wallowing in their own shit and then skinning them is ok cause they would “outrule” us?
Please - FUR IS WRONG. PERIOD.
Posted by
MiaAndrea on 06/16 at 03:58 PM
lol i know, miiandrea, like i said, truly ignorant comments.
luvbean have you worked for peta? then you can comment. their cause is excellent. don’t be another selfish person. get over yourself.
what do you volunteer for that benefits others?
why don’t you do what i am doing, and foster shelter dogs.
Posted by
please adopt not shop for pets on 06/16 at 04:02 PM
I will allow that I lumped all the persons involved with the PETA organization into one group and that was poorly done by me. I’m sure there are of people who all they want to do is help animals. You also have to make a concession though, that there are people involved in the PETA organization that cross the line in the name of their cause. These are the people we hear about. These are the people who have become society’s representation of PETA. These are the people who give genuine people just looking to help a bad name.
Posted by
luvbean_xo on 06/16 at 04:04 PM
PETA’s stance is that factory farming, animal testing, fur farming, and the use of animals in entertainment is wrong. Personally I couldn’t agree more, but it isn’t right for PETA members to try to instill their beliefs in others through force or extreme stunts, like the one they pulled with Beyonce. The only way they’re going to get their point across is by giving people accurate information in a civilized manner, not by forcing them to watch the graphic slaughter of animals.
Posted by
beautiful.disaster on 06/16 at 04:06 PM
lol samsonite, you are a fool. of course they don’t kill the animals themselves, they pay others to do it. it is still wrong. oy this is insane
Posted by
please adopt not shop for pets on 06/16 at 04:06 PM
you guys, most of america doesn’t realize how animals are killed, so they have to be forcefull otherwise people wouldn’t want to know. “ignorance is bliss” in a way.
if people are going to wear fur, they should know how the animals are killed for it.
be responsible
Posted by
please adopt not shop for pets on 06/16 at 04:09 PM
lol civilized manner? then do you really think that she would take the time to look? her people would trash that video sent to her office in a millisecond.
Posted by
please adopt not shop for pets on 06/16 at 04:10 PM
Personally, I like animals more than I like people. Just my two cents.
Posted by
clever girl on 06/16 at 04:12 PM
I worked for years with abused animals. I said I don’t like fur, nor do I condone the ill-treatment of animals. I also value life, no matter what form. That said, I agree with some of the priciples of PETA, I don’t agree with there methods! Of course PETA literture doesn’t state they don’t care for humans, I’m going by their actions.
Posted by
luvbean_xo on 06/16 at 04:13 PM
Regardless of what you guys think about PETA - they’re taking action and getting things done. Granted, sometimes they don’t necessarily go about it the right way, and I can’t say that I condone everything they do 100%, but I have to give them props for bringing to light some of the horrible mistreatment that animals endure on a daily basis.
By forcing their way into chicken mills and pig farms, they’re exposing the ugly truths to the world. People don’t realize what goes down at these places. You think the pork sitting on your plate came from a pig that lived in the lap of luxury? Do you honestly think this pig was treated humanely? Hell no! These animals are abused and mistreated every day. If PETA and other animal rights organizations didn’t speak up for them, laws wouldn’t be enacted, people would act out and the cruelty would persist.
So, regardless of how low you think the PETA people go, at least they’re changing the way our world looks at the meat industry, the fur industry and every other industry that uses and exploits animals.
Posted by
nataliey1025 on 06/16 at 04:14 PM
Thank you SamsoniteXman! My point exactly!
Posted by
luvbean_xo on 06/16 at 04:15 PM
That may be true contessamemily is an idiot, maybe a video wouldn’t work. However, I refuse to believe there were no other options. All they’re looking for is a means to an end and they took the easy way out. I’m sure there were plenty of ways they could have gotten in touch with Beyonce and “her people” without resorting to posing as fans to raise awareness.
Posted by
beautiful.disaster on 06/16 at 04:17 PM
Samsonite, I highly doubt Beyonce or her people would have taken their call.
Posted by
clever girl on 06/16 at 04:20 PM
i like the way the bitched her out…after they ordered their food
just proves…they didn’t win a competition for nothing!
Posted by
CheapProps on 06/16 at 04:23 PM
GOOD! notice how they can’t defend using fur. beyonces an idiot and so’s her mother.
Posted by
junk_mail34 on 06/16 at 04:33 PM
samsonite. you are clueless. you obviously know nothing of volunteering and protesting.
the truth hurts. they didn’t beat her up. so what if it ruined her dinner. its a small price to pay for the agony that millions of animals go through. get over yourself.
Posted by
please adopt not shop for pets on 06/16 at 04:41 PM
lol luvbean…....it’s an organization about animals, not people! omg…....you are too much. this is pointless. go sit in your ignorance.
Posted by
please adopt not shop for pets on 06/16 at 04:42 PM
I don’t believe PETA’s actions prove they don’t care for humankind. Publicly humiliting Beyonce, Paris Hilton, and Calvin Klein does not mean they don’t care about people - it means they don’t care about Beyonce, Paris Hilton, and certain fashion designers.
Posted by
petethekazoo on 06/16 at 04:44 PM
Fur sucks. Come on, the thouht of it is just nasty. What’s the point of fur?
Posted by
hisugar on 06/16 at 04:45 PM
peta isn’t in the business of hurting anyone.their cause is for animals…...they aren’t trying to solve world poverty. and the world poverty organizations aren’t championing for animals. enough of that bullshit excuse that they don’t care about humans….. uh duh.
Posted by
please adopt not shop for pets on 06/16 at 04:50 PM
Your right Samsonite…..they should have egged and floured her like they did with Paris Hilton not too long ago. My favorite is dumping red paint on people wearing ridiculous fur coats….I have done it in the past and it was quite enjoyable.
Posted by
MiaAndrea on 06/16 at 04:56 PM
Or they could have clubbed a baby seal todeath in front of them while it shreiked in pain and splattered blood all over their food. Maybe then they’d see why it is wrong.
Posted by
MiaAndrea on 06/16 at 04:58 PM
Your just plain silly contessa, it seems I can see your point but you won’t even consider my point. I’m not stupid I know it’s a organization for animals, but you can’t seem to see farther than your own ass. PETA has good ideas, but not good execution. They go on their little escapades to try to further their cause with little thought of the people they hurt along the way. I’m not talking celebrities, I’m talking people like you and me. Now, not all PETA people are like that, I conceded that in a previous post. You, on the other hand, won’t even fanthom that some of the PETA people go to the extreme. That said there are plenty of ways in this modern world of technology of getting your message out without resorting to harrassment. I am not talking about the Beyonce incident. I am talking in general. So please do not assume that I’m a blind idiot that doesn’t understand what PETA is attempting to do, or that I amd selfish and uncaring, and please don’t assume you know my type of person.
Posted by
luvbean_xo on 06/16 at 05:09 PM
And by the way saying it doesn’t matter how PETA gets their point across as long as they do is pure ignorance. Violence to stop violence makes you no better than the people your trying to stop.
Posted by
luvbean_xo on 06/16 at 05:14 PM
Exactly luvbean_xo! I understand exactly what PETA is trying to do and like I said I’m all for it. But it’s like you said, I agree with their principles, not some of their methods! I’m not saying PETA is bad, far from it. The graphic videos can actually be an eye-opener in certain situations where appropriate. All I was saying was that posing as fans and showing that video to Beyonce was inappropriate in that situation and there had to have been another way.
Posted by
beautiful.disaster on 06/16 at 05:20 PM
lol violence? you are confused with the animal liberation front (alf) they use the dangerous methods to free animals from labs.
of course there are some bad apples! just like there are bad cops, bad teachers! that goes w/o saying and is common sense ......that is a very small and insignificant point, as if you are just trying to grab onto anything so that you come across as right. and i know who you are by the comments you make. you are more insensitive than you think.
and regards to your last rant….did i ever say that peta can do whatever they want? that they should be allowed to be violent (not that they are, as a majority) you are making up some story in your head. poor girl. no more commenting with you. you are hopeless.
you are a walking antithesis. “luvbean” my ass.
lol have a nice “ignorant day.”
Posted by
please adopt not shop for pets on 06/16 at 05:21 PM
Oh, and MiaAndrea sarcasm is not your friend.
Posted by
beautiful.disaster on 06/16 at 05:22 PM
samsonite-what other way? their first act towards beyonce was by taking out a full page add in billboard magazine. that didn’t work. neither did sending them a dvd to their office (see at http://www.peta.com)
lol come on now. you feel bad that her dinner was interupted?
Posted by
please adopt not shop for pets on 06/16 at 05:23 PM
You are truly something contessa. I’m not even going to argue my character with you, because no matter what I say you’ll think what you want. So throwing things at people isn’t violence? Whatever! Live in your dream world. I just loved how you automatical labeled me as ignorant, uncaring and a horrible person because I don’t share your exact views. That’s right I don’t a hundered percent beleive in PETA so I must want animals to be harmed and tortured. All you’ve done today is reinforce the views I have of SOME of the people in your organization.
Posted by
luvbean_xo on 06/16 at 05:33 PM
I don’t work for PETA. I have no idea of what they are capable. It seems they can get in contact with other celebrities easily. Why not Beyonce? And if the reason is her own unresponsiveness, then that’s her prerogative. You can’t force someone to share your point of view.
Posted by
beautiful.disaster on 06/16 at 05:44 PM
Well contessamemily, there might not be any official PETA literature saying they don’t care about humans, but these quotes speak for themselves. These all came from the mouth of Ingrid Newkirk, PETA’s founder:
“Animal liberationists do not separate out the human animal, so there is no rational basis for saying that a human being has special rights. A rat is a pig is a dog is a boy. They’re all mammals.”
“Six million Jews died in concentration camps, but six billion broiler chickens will die this year in slaughterhouses.”
“Humans have grown like a cancer. We’re the biggest blight on the face of the earth.”
Posted by
beautiful.disaster on 06/16 at 06:03 PM
lol i am not a member of peta, idiot, lol.
samsonite you are misreading those quotes. lol you don’t get it! PETA IS AN ORGANIZATION THAT CARES ABOUT ANIMALS…...GET IT THROUGH YOUR THICK HEAD!!!!! OF COURSE THIS IS THEIR MAIN FOCUS! ARE THEY OUT KILLING HUMANS? NO!!!!!!!!!! LOL YOU BOTH SHOULD DATE LOL. no wait, don’t breed…....
Posted by
please adopt not shop for pets on 06/16 at 06:28 PM
*shakes head.
hopeless!
Posted by
please adopt not shop for pets on 06/16 at 06:29 PM
My heart says: Jesus H .... How about anyone just taking a few seconds to even begin to imagine the pain and agony these animals go thru up to the moment of death. Can you truly imagine the face of any animal in the midst of facing such brutality? What if were your pet friend? This is why debates hit such a strong cord with people on either side of the issue - emotion.
My mind tells me: Socrates said the unexamined life is one not worth living. I ask you, does it pain us too much to hold up a mirror and contemplate how we live our lives? I believe the spirit in which Peta offered the words as quoted above was to give us pause for thought.
Posted by
mariahs lisp was here on 06/16 at 06:36 PM
I believe that some more extreme PETA members do care about animals more than humans. Maybe those quotes were taken out of context, but their actions are undeniable. Either way, it’s obvious you don’t see my point, which was that those PETA members “posing as fans and showing that video to Beyonce was inappropriate in that situation and there had to have been another way.” Plain and simple. If you disagree, fine.
By the way I’m aware you don’t work for PETA. I never said you did.
Posted by
beautiful.disaster on 06/16 at 06:57 PM
I like your icon mariahs lisp was here! Maybe I’ll go resurrect some of my old ones. lol
Posted by
beautiful.disaster on 06/16 at 07:02 PM
PETA does do some very extreme things but I do have agree that no animal should be murdered for the purpose of making a coat. However, I have pets that live inside so I don’t agree with them about not having pets. They’d be running the streets wild and being killed if people didn’t take care of them. I think wearing fur has been around for so many years, for warmth, and it’s never going to go away. No, I don’t wear fur but I do wear leather shoes and leather jackets at times and have leather furniture.
Posted by
pache on 06/16 at 07:02 PM
I don’t wear fur, and I now that I’ve seen that Pam for Peta video about fur and animal cruelty..I will reconsider eating meat. Food is one thing.. but skinning animals for their fur when there are non cruel ways to “look good” or stay warm during the winter is another.
I believe in reincarnation.. I also believe that those animals that are being skinned, beheaded etc.. have feelings and souls of humans. Whatever, call me cheesey and lame. It’s what I believe. About the starving kids in Africa situation.. there ARE funds, food drives and programs to help them out. The reality is.. there are millions and millions of people, and they can’t all be helped. Lots people in North America, Europe, where ever have problems of their own. Celebrities donate large sums of money to organizations to help third-world countries. Don’t you think animals deserve an organization too? I certainly do.
And to the people that still support the creation of real fur clothing… I surely HOPE you didn’t watch that video. If you did and still have the desire to buy fur, I’d have to think you that you r heart is non-existant.
Beyonce got what she deserved: to get the truth shoved in her pathetic face. I no longer have any respect for her. Killing animals for vanity is just wrong. Putting a price tag on clothes she or her mother “designed” with real fur is wrong.
Posted by
choochootrain on 06/16 at 07:12 PM
Beyonce has no personality and is very superficial. She was very child-like in the clip and I can’t stand how she doesnt speak properly.
GOOD FOR PETA!
Posted by
Tortula2 on 06/16 at 07:28 PM
Anyone who supports PETA is an idiot. POINT BLANK. This hypocritical organization doesn’t care about anything other than their bottom line. This organization deems anything that involves animals to be cruel, unusual, and pushes to have it made illegal.
This means, all you idiots out there who actually think that PETA is doing a service to the community as well as to animals, that your PETS would be forced to fend for themselves, since PETA doesn’t support pet ownership. This MEANS, you dimwits, that if you know of someone whom is blind and uses a service animal, that they would be forced to relenquish said animal because PETA doesn’t support seeing-eye dogs, or other service animals. This MEANS, you twits, that if you know of someone whose life has been saved by drugs that have been tested on animals, that others like them WON’T be saved because PETA doesn’t support ALL forms of animal testing. This MEANS, you buffoons, that everything you own in your home that comes from an animal, whether it be in food form, medicinal form, clothing, shoes, accessories, furniture, or decoration, would need to be destroyed, because PETA doesn’t support ANY of that.
Oh…but you can keep your cans of Raid and Black Flag. Hypocritical PETA doesn’t think that Roaches are cute enough to be part of their campaign for world domination.
Posted by
DaisyFly on 06/16 at 08:52 PM
wow calm down daisy. we are argueing that peta does good things for animals. that doesn’t mean that we (or especially I) agree with everything that they do.
i support anyone who is anti fur, and anti animal cruetly.
now take a chill pill
Posted by
please adopt not shop for pets on 06/16 at 09:18 PM
lol daisy do you need some advil? someone is having their period!
lol
Posted by
please adopt not shop for pets on 06/16 at 09:19 PM
PETA does good things for animals? So you believe that killing stray animals BECAUSE they are such, even though that is exactly how ALL housepets would end up if PETA had their way is in any way “doing good things” for them?
Wait…you’re supporting PETA’s work…which leads me back to my idiot statement. You’ve proven my point. Thank you!
Posted by
DaisyFly on 06/16 at 09:26 PM
wait. did contessamemily replace contessamemilyisanidiot? because i’m having a hard time telling the difference right now.
Posted by
jaye on 06/16 at 09:36 PM
i am a vegetarian and sometimes vegan who thinks PETA have their hearts in the right place [i mean their name is “people for the ethical treatment of animals”...who is against ethical treatment of anything?]
but some of their members are extreme and their publicity stunts even annoy me, which means non vegetarians are probably totally annoyed.
Posted by
moose on 06/16 at 10:12 PM
it would have been better to make an appointment to talk to beyonce and her mom to try to turn them on to recycled fur instead of bombarding them at dinner [so tacky].
by the way: some active vegan/vegetarian members of PETA will actually go to work for a slaughterhouse/puppy mill etc.. for as long as it takes [think months to over a year] to get the horrid video/picture evidence they have on their website so they can stop animal abuse and raise awareness.
so in response to the poeople who are like “why bother there are people being abused” yadda yadda yadda…well yeah there are, but i think you should just try to do the best you can [eat organic, be a vegitarian or don’t wear fur or just wear recycled fur or EDUCATE YOURSELF ABOUT WHERE YOUR FOOD REALLY COMES FROM, you may be surprised…and there is no reason to abuse anything or anyone and finally animals can’t talk.
*gets off soapbox and takes a bow*
Posted by
moose on 06/16 at 10:35 PM
who cares about peta or beyonce.
Posted by
AgentHollywood on 06/16 at 11:40 PM
well said, moose. you can support peta but not support every bit of it…....pam anderson owns dogs as pets….....
Posted by
please adopt not shop for pets on 06/17 at 12:01 AM
peta does good work for animals. if you can’t understand that, it’s not my problem.
Posted by
please adopt not shop for pets on 06/17 at 12:03 AM
Talk about backwards logic.
Sofa, you obviously don’t seem to understand where PETA is coming from. You think they really CARE about animals? If they did, they wouldn’t support programs that KILL animals simply because they are strays, while ENDORSING turning animals into strays at the same time.
And using Pamela Anderson as an example as to why you believe PETA is doing good work just proves my point on the idiocy involved with supporting such…well…IDIOCY. She’s someone who cries afoul of “fake” people, with her “fake” boobs. Yes, using her as an example for supporting PETA makes about as much sense as using Tom Cruise as a reason to support Scientology, which brings me to my next point: The CoS’ drug rehab program has helped a lot of people (or so they claim, as does PETA), but to say “oh, we can support Narc Anon but not Scientology” is akin to saying you can support Westboro Baptists, but not Fred Phelps. It’s ridiculous. All of it.
Posted by
DaisyFly on 06/17 at 12:16 AM
daisy, you don’t get it. i am saying that you can support part or a lot of an organization-case in point pam anderson. she champions peta yet she owns dogs. one doesn’t have to agree with all of their practices. calm down. so fucking what if she has fake boobs. that is your anger towards her. shut up, fool. you are the idiot.
Posted by
please adopt not shop for pets on 06/17 at 01:10 AM
it’s official. you are an evil witch on her period.
Posted by
please adopt not shop for pets on 06/17 at 01:14 AM
LOL. You think that her being a double hypocrite is a GOOD thing? You’re supporting double hypocrisy, yet call ME the idiot? That’s what I mean by backwards logic. You are too inept to even comprehend what I am saying, hence the need to try to divert attention from the topic by inventing an id that neither refutes me nor supports you. It’s called pathetic, and you fill the role quite perfectly.
Posted by
DaisyFly on 06/17 at 01:22 AM
THIS ISN’T ABOUT PETA! THIS IS ABOUT UNNECESSARY BRUTALITY AND CRUELTY AGAINST ANOTHER LIVING CREATURE FOR THE SAKE OF FUCKING FASHION!! Don’t get it twisted and start to criticize the messenger (peta) when the MESSAGE of what they are saying is true and correct.
I challenge anyone who is pro-fur to watch any of the exposes done on the fur farms. But because you all are probably ignorant cowards, i doubt that you’d do it. BTW, trying to justify one wrong by pointing to another wrong is just moronic.
Posted by
meena trina on 06/17 at 02:22 AM
One more thing—WHEN did Peta say that they were against Pets? You’re either a liar or a dumbass who can’t argue without making shit up. Peta has no problems with pets. they have a problem with ABUSE from breeders and pet stores. Here is what peta says about pets:
“Adopting a cat or dog from a shelter and providing a loving home is a small but powerful way to prevent some of this suffering. The most important thing that animal guardians can do is to spay or neuter their animals and avoid buying animals from breeders or pet stores, which contribute to the overpopulation crisis.”
Yeah, they really sound like they are against pets (rolls eyes). Get your facts straight!
Posted by
meena trina on 06/17 at 02:37 AM
I think it is very strange that people are actually upset that Beyonce had her dinner interrupted. A dinner that was bid on - not even one she was out at on her own. You’re so worried about a celebrity that would not give you the time of day. Too sad.
The only issue here whether you like PETA or not is that wearing fur is disgusting and wrong - and for those that say it’s a “choice” - well the living, breathing animal that had it’s fur skinned off them and was killed (so some pompous loser can wear it as a coat) should have a choice to keep that fur and to live. So using that “choice” arguement in this case is complete crap.
Posted by
Nastiness on 06/17 at 03:01 AM
DaisyFly, et al - Simple question (and pretty much the boiled-down, bottom line of this discussion). Do you believe in skinning animals for their fur?
While I applaud your use of logic and reason, using inflammatory words such as “idiot” only exacerbate the situation and further alienate those who oppose you. Seems a counterintuitive move if your true motive is solely to “enlighten” people rather than trying to prove a point or slamming someone. How about qualifying us as “uninformed” in your eyes? Wouldn’t that be ethical thing to do?
PETP (People for the Ethical Treatment of Posters)
Posted by
mariahs lisp was here on 06/17 at 04:09 AM
Mariahs, I am completely apathetic to the skinning of animals for their fur. Do I wear fur? No. I make a conscious choice to not do so; Not because I think it to be cruel, but simply because I find no use for it in my climate. The same can be said for leather jackets, pants, etc… I’m not going to be a hypocrite and say that it’s cruel to skin an animal for its fur, when we do so much more to harm animals, whether it be for food, fun, entertainment, or just plain because. Even those whom claim to be anti-fur, and wear faux fur are harming animals by wearing products made from petroleum products, which is what faux fur is. How many millions of animals die each year from pollution via oil spills, field disasters, line explosions, etc…just so we can feel better about not skinning thousands of animals for fur coats?
As for my use of terms such as “idiot”, “dimwit” and “twit”, it matters not if it exacerbates the situation by alienating those whom oppose me. I fully believe that one must be angered to the point of screaming before they will be willing to finally take a breath, thus actually allowing oxygen to reach their brain, and eventually, knowledge. If it has offended you, I do apologize. However, I did take notice of the fact that while you found time to criticize my posts, you failed to so for the person whom went so far as to actually change their ID in a poor attempt to malign my character. That is very telling.
We live in a world that is ignorant to the way of life. Most people in the western world believe their meat comes from the grocery store. Having been raised on a farm, I am completely aware as to where meat comes from, how it is brought to our butchers and stores, and what it takes to do so. I don’t delude myself with these George Orwellesque notions that PETA likes to throw down.
What it all boils down to is this: PETA is a dishonest organization that is far more concerned with its own bottom line than of the animals it claims to want to save. Supporting SOME of its programs simply because they are doing SOME good is akin to supporting some NAZI programs because they did some good. I find that to be illogical, futile, and just plain asinine. Most responses in here are completely reactionary, lacking in the common sense it takes to fully understand and appreciate what they are responding to. Mores the pity.
Posted by
DaisyFly on 06/17 at 04:39 AM
it’s quite clear to me rosetattoos/contessamemilyisanidiot
luvbeanisanidiot/sofakingawesome/daisyflyshutup got her just desserts. she’s the one attacking other posters first around here, not the other way around. she’s a bully and just got a well deserved ass whoopin’.
btw daisyfly, well said.
Posted by
jaye on 06/17 at 05:01 AM
Beyonce is such a sheltered little twit. I am glad PETA shook her up a bit and made her “uncomfortable”. I think that was from the effect of more than one brain cell at work in that pea brain of hers at a time…
Posted by
BronzeGoddess on 06/17 at 08:00 AM
The fact that PETA goes as far as spilling paint on people, and humiliating them is completely disgusting, and probably the most ridiculous approach. If someone is yelling “DON’T USE FUR!!” at you you’re probably not going to listen.
If they wanted to make a bigger difference they would target ordinairy people, because we don’t think we’re all high and mighty as celebrities do.
They should freaking come out with commercials if they really wanted to prove a point, like those TRUTH commercials against smoking. As much as I am against animal cruelty, I believe that it should be prosecuted in a more intelligent way, rather than YELLING and DEFAMING people publicly.
Posted by
cclynxed on 06/17 at 11:02 AM
Let me jsut point out that this is a RAG site….We are ALL entitled to our own opinions…although it is human to want to debate these topics….I will note that the jumping on ones opinion is out of line.
When I post somehting it is to put my comment out there and for those readers to take note how others feel about a certain subject. Can we please try to refrain from taking it to a personal level….Its getting rediculous.
Like I said….debating a topic is what we are here for…but this picking on someone and changing your name to point out someone is just not right. State your opinion, debate it if you wish, but don’t go so low as to make it a personal attack.
That being said….Beyonce and House of Dereon got what they deserved! PETA has Pros AND Cons!
Posted by
myopinionisplatinum on 06/17 at 11:48 AM
myopinionisplatninum-what an ironic name for someone . you are not entitled to even speak on the supject, so mind your own business. also, nice promoting of white air brushed trash on your avatar. don’t be a hypocrite like daisyfly.
myopinionisplatinum, shush up. deal with it
Posted by
please adopt not shop for pets on 06/17 at 12:14 PM
lol well said, mariah!
Posted by
please adopt not shop for pets on 06/17 at 12:14 PM
wow i just finally was able to watch the video, and the peta women were very nice about how they spoke to beyonce. if anyone is against this, go skin an animal alive for yourself.
the truth hurts.
Posted by
please adopt not shop for pets on 06/17 at 12:20 PM
you go, meena!
Posted by
please adopt not shop for pets on 06/17 at 04:09 PM
rose, you just NOW watched the video and you’ve been shooting your mouth off about it this whole time? LOL
Posted by
jaye on 06/17 at 04:20 PM
Let me do some back-peddling…
Do I know what Peta stands for and how they implement their actions? Not entirely. Do I know what goes on at rendering plants, what the USDA allows to pass into the cow milk we drink or the 4D animal contents in the food we feed our pets. Not entirely, but I am beginning to learn. (I’m not bovine-hating, I still love you moo-moos).
But basically at some point, in order to have an exacting, rational discussion, I have to divorce myself from these peripheral topics and address the issue as it stands alone, and for me it was the interaction of 4 women. I can’t confuse the topic at hand with other issues… it is what it is.
If I offended anyone, I apologize.
*tap, tap on Rose Tatoos’ shoulder* I understand your tenacity but the name changing isn’t helping matters.
Posted by
mariahs lisp was here on 06/17 at 04:47 PM
Mariahs, the topic at hand IS PETA and their underhanded tactics. What they did was, for lack of a better term, tacky. I did not digress from said topic; But, going so far as to try to chastise me or anyone else for posting on this board is.
As for the name-changer, he/she/it only further supports my stance when I label PETA supporters as idiots simply by being what they are. I won’t apologize for them, or TO them, especially this particular individual, for despite my doling out information and a link so that they can actually inform themselves, they continue to choose to remain ignorant; There is no excuse for that.
Finally, if there is any doubt as to whether or not I feel SORRY for Beyonce, let me be clear in saying that I do not. She’s a celebrity, and as such, is open to all the criticism thrown her way. I may not like how it’s done, where it’s done, or who does it, but it’s not for me to like, is it?
Posted by
DaisyFly on 06/17 at 06:21 PM
Name-changing twit, you don’t seem to be able to comprehend just what exactly is a hypocrite. But, that’s ok. You can’t comprehend a lot of things, as is patently clear by your postings.
In one last ditch attempt at clarifying things, let me make a few points:
1. PETA does NOT care about animals. It is a ruse. Any organization that would willingly choose to cause starvation, emotional distress, and physical pain to the animals it claims to want to protect is a HYPOCRITICAL organization. (Did you see how I tried to give you a working description of “hypocritical” here?)
2. Supporting SOME of PETAs work, knowing the type of organization is is, or at the very least, being informed of some of its practices, is akin to supporting SOME of the Nazi’s work because that work did SOME good. Doing anything in the name of PETA means you’re doing it in the name of hypocrisy and greed.
3. I know how most animals are skinned. I have seen these PETA videos as well as actual skinning. I still don’t care. Does that make me a hypocrite? No. Why? Because I know that the methods used in PETA’s propaganda vids does severe damage to the fur, thus lowering its quality, which an avid fur consumer would be aware of, and thus, not be interested in it.
4. This is an open topic forum, where people come to express their opinions. For you to state to someone that they are not even entitled to speak on a certain subjuect WHOLLY because they are disagreeing with YOUR opinion proves that while you have no problem enjoying your right to freedom of speech, you don’t want to share said right, thereby making you a HYPOCRITE. It proves that you are nothing more than a poor imitation of a totalitarian leader. It’s pathetic, if not not humorous in your lame attempt at achieving something other than your current status of nada.
Posted by
DaisyFly on 06/17 at 06:37 PM
lol kids keep your argueing…....it doesn’t matter when or if i saw the video. i will applaud what they do about being anti fur.
deal with it. and daisyfly, couldn’t be bothered to read your novels. go take a chill pill and some advil.
Posted by
please adopt not shop for pets on 06/17 at 07:27 PM
adopt a shelter pet!, I am 600% with you. Yay
Posted by
fffff on 06/17 at 07:45 PM
you’re right, rose. it would’ve only mattered to watch the video first if you’d been interested in any semblence of making informed statements. you’ve made it quite clear you aren’t.
Posted by
jaye on 06/17 at 08:20 PM
Lmao@ rose for changing names based on the hot topics complete with pictures. It’s cute.
But to answer someone’s question, i wouldn’t skin an animal for fur yet alone abuse an animal. I don’t wear fur, and don’t think it’s cute. But i do eat meat and boy it is tasty!! season it with some lemon and rosemary = yum.
LOL
Posted by
AgentHollywood on 06/17 at 09:56 PM